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2. How was Lucy's life similar to human beings? How was it different? How does Lucy's experiences compare to what you read in 6 in the Experience Sociology book? How was her life different? Use examples from both the podcast and the book. (2 paragraphs)
3. What happened to Lucy? Why? Who is responsible for what happened to Lucy and why? How does what happened to Lucy relate to what you have learned about the socialization and what happens when we do not receive it.
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Born in 1964 to two Chimpanzees in a U.S. Circus was Lucy. When she was 2 days old she was kidnaped from her biological mother by Maurice and Jane Temerlin who was interested in carrying out an experiment to see how human Lucy would become if given the right upbringing. These two humans immediately started raising her and treating her as a human child. She was taken to their home in a basinet via airplane as opposed to in a cage in the luggage compartment indicating that this chimp was considered their baby. Once in the home of Mr. and Mrs. Temerlin Lucy began to socialize with her surroundings. She imitated their actions as would a human baby.
ReplyDeleteBased on the Chapter six in the book “Experiencing Sociology” Lucy although a Chimp by nature was exposed to the Agents of Socialization namely:
Family: Mr. and Mrs. Temerlin taught Lucy to eat with silverware, dress herself and sit in chairs at the dinner table. They socialized her to see them as her parents and how to show emotions to the point that when Mrs. Temerlin was sick Lucy show compassion and nurtured her.
School: They had Mr. Felts come in to teach Lucy how to communicate with humans and although she could not speak she was able to learn American Sign Language; she eventually learned over a hundred and forty signs.
Was Lucy different to humans as we know them? No. I was so intrigued by this podcast that I took out my son’s record to compare it to that of Lucy’s and everything that we considered human in child development took place for Lucy only at a quicker pace. For instance the average child takes it first steps at 12-15 months Lucy did it in 6 months. As a chimp she developed like a human child only at a faster pace. The first time Lucy was introduce to a male chimpanzee she was not excited and did not relate to him. She would greet her sign language teacher with hugs and kisses and even to the extent of making them tea. Lucy was stranded between being Chimp and being Human.
In 1977 Lucy was transported back to her natural Habitat. She was not socialized in such a culture and as a result of her teaching she lost her life supposedly by the hands of the same people she thought she was apart-of (HUMANS). In my opinion the Temerlin’s was responsible for what happened to Lucy. They socialized Lucy in their culture and once they were unable to continue having her in such a society they placed her back in unfamiliar surroundings. They did not re-socialize her or else things may have turned out differently.
This is a rather interesting study and I have learnt that as human we are not really different to animals. Just as Lucy we too are unfinished beings at birth, potentially able to act as others humans do. We are able to communicate with symbols in the forms of words, body language and signs whereas Lucy did through signs but nevertheless she was able to communicate. One difference is that as humans we can see and analyze the effects of our actions and the actions of others. Lucy was unable to develop this quality and as a result lost her life.
The story of Lucy was that she was taken away from her mother from the moment that she was born. She was raised by Maurice and Jane Temmerlin in the year of 1964. The reason that they took her was because Maurice wanted to know that, "If given the right upbringing, how human could Lucy become?" He wanted to if she could learn to love and feel emotions that humans felt. Lucy soon began to develop at a normal rate that a child would. She soon was able to hold her own bottle and at three months her eyes would focus as if she were human. At the age of six moths she was mobile and walking around on all fours. As she got older she would emulate what her parents did, such as eating with forks and spoons. Lucy would also dress herself in dresses and look at herself in the mirror. Lucy had also was taught sign language and had a 250 word vocabulary. After a while she began to create her own words. Lucy also interacted with a male chimp and found that she wasn't really attracted to him because she saw herself as a human. The older that she got the harder that it became for her parents to raise her. She was easily five times more stronger than them and her behavior became too much for her parents. Eventually she was sent to live in the wild with a woman named Janice Carter and a few other chimps that had been humanized as she had been.
ReplyDeleteLucy's story relates to Chapter 6 because it shows how Lucy went through the process of socialization and became human in nature and character. From the moment that she was born, Lucy was taught by her mother and father how to behave and act like a human and what was expected of her. She was taught about hygiene and other various social norms that are expected of human children. Lucy was also taught her gender role since when she was able to she dressed herself in dresses.
The two socializing agents in Lucy's life were her family, peer groups and from schooling with Roger Faltz, who taught her sign language. Lucy's family acted as a socializing agent because she was taught the various norms associated with human behavior. When she was a baby she would attempt to climb out of her crib and seek the attention. She would also pull at her fathers hands so that he would chase her around. Lucy would even console her mother if she was feeling upset about something by patting her back. Lucy understood her role as daughter and made Maurice proud of all of her achievements.
Foger Faltz played a role in Lucy's schooling because he taught her sign language which allowed her to interact with other human beings. The textbook states that school teaches children how to interact with others and to adjust to being part of a group. By acquiring the gift of language, Lucy can now interact with other humans and this makes her adjustment easier than if she couldn't communicate at all. When it came to peer groups, Lucy interacted with Sue by preparing tea for the both of them whenever Sue came over. This demonstrates that Lucy understands that when someone comes over you usually offer them a drink to them. Lucy was also influenced by the media because whenever they were together she and Lucy would look through magazines. Lucy seemed to like the pictures of women and children.
Lucy's life was unique to all primates because to multiple socializing agents she thought of herself as a human. She communicated and lived among human beings and even picked up on certain behaviors such as lying. When she used the bathroom on herself she blamed it on Sue because she knew that it was wrong. That signifies that Lucy had started to think like a human in ways that were never imagined.
Lucy's life was similar to human beings because she developed at the rate in which a human child would. She had parents who loved her and many things that a child would have, like toys and clothes. Lucy ate at a dinner table like a normal little girl would. Her experience different because she didn't attend a public school like most children would have. Lucy also didn't interact with children like she would have if she were a child. The largest difference would probably be that Lucy wasn't exposed to as many socializing agents that a normal human child might have been.
ReplyDeleteLucy's life experiences is very much like what I read in chapter 6. The chapter explains the various stages of childhood that children go through and some of this applies to Lucy. Mainly how she had to discover her identity through various social institution and how her parents taught her. As humans we go through stages of self discovery that shape us into the person that we ultimately become. For Lucy, this involved figuring out who she was because she fell somewhere in between human and animal.
Lucy's life was different because even though Lucy was socialized as a human would be, she still lacked certain social restraints that a normal child would have adopted. Lucy would pounce of her parents guests and tear apart the living room as she got older. This shows that even if you are shown the norms of your society and understand what they are you may not always adhere to them.
Eventually Lucy met her demise by walking into the hands of human strangers who meant her harm. Lucy had been brought up to believe that all humans were good so when she saw her murder she never thought that they might have been taught to think of her a certain way. Lucy's parents are at fault for what happened to her because they took her away from her family and put her in the situation to not know who she is. Lucy was robbed of her identity and for that reason she unable to survive in a situation that should have been second nature to her had she received a proper upbringing. This relates to what happens when we do not receive socialization because the lack of social stimulation causes our health to decline and also delays us developmentally. Lucy was severely delayed and it took her years to assimilate to a habitat that was her birth right.
Im going to bring my extra credit to class tomorrow because it wont allow me to post my work because I wrote to much, thats what its saying.
ReplyDeleteLucy was female chimpanzees, chimpanzees travels from the east down to the east cost of nor america. After two days lucy was born she was taking by Dr james who wanted to study chimpanzees.Lucy mother was giving a strong medication that makes feel good and go to sleep. When Dr james take lucy home they started feeding lucy with bottle.After six month lucy started clapping and wearing shorts, and doing signes.
ReplyDeleteLucy have unique life because she was raised like human,dess like human,and she was attracted to human. Lucy was brought in sociaty where she was teach differnt kind of behavior. the key of socializing lucy with culture knowledge she had to learn. Lucy learn 250 signes and she also created new word. For example when lucy tasted the watermelons and gave a name.Lucy life was different because she brought in to society. As stated in our book neurosocialogy study nervous especially brains and social behavior, Dr james study lucy brain and behavor also Dr jame takes lucy as her own daughter.
According to study of lucy skeleton, she was shot. Jenna believe that lucy was shot because she approaches humain to easily. After one year of the second visite Jenna went to the island and find lucy body next to her cage.Lucy hands and feets skeleton remains. In my openion Dr jame is responsable because he thaught lucy the behavor of society,rule to fallow and teach lucy how to behave and approache human with no violence. when she mature and couldn't handle her anymore then decided to take her to jungle where she never been before. when we do not receive scialization we behave like animals we don't know what to do or not to do, we don't fallow no rule and we careless about others culture and norms.
Here’s a Chimp and like many humans were born to a mother and a father through birth. She was taken from her parents at a very young age (2). Even though she was not “human” she was treated as such. As we know, when a baby begins to develop they go through developmental stages to reach their developmental miles stones. As Lucy began to adapt to her surroundings like a baby she imitated the action of those around her. She was taught to eat with spoons, she was taught to dress her self and conduct herself respectfully. It seemed to me that Lucy met her developmental mile stones early than most human babies would. Lucy’s life was a blueprint for chapter six. I say this because of the various institution in which Lucy was exposed to it help her develop and they all help define who she is. But did they really?
ReplyDeleteLucy had agents in her family and her peers at school.
Lucy had emotions, sincere and empathetic I was simply amazed. There was little to distinguish now as to what made you human. The only thing I would say is that she lacked certain traits of a human being, being that she was not around “animals” of her kind. This brings me to the discussion in class where it was mentioned that people usually stay in their class because it is familiar to them. Although its not about class here the same concept I believe can be placed upon it. Also though she was unable to communicate with symbols we call words she was still able to express herself regardless. Lucy had agents in her family and her peers at school. She was taught sign language and was able to communicate with others. Another thing is the fact that because of her inability to think outside of her experience she in turn lost her life. I am not saying all human beings are able to do this because for some like Lucy were not raised in such a matter. But an average human being depending on what you consider average will be able to distinguish between what are bad action and good action, danger and Safety. Lucy could not.
As in human life the parents are always to blame for what happens to their child. So I Am going to go out on a limb here and say that her “mother was responsible for what happened to her. Taking her away from her natural habitat one constitute as kidnapping and secondly as a result of her actions she did not social her child in the way that she should have. If that was done Lucy would have probably been able to see what she was getting into. In my opinion if she was raised in her natural habitat that trait would have become and instinct for her. She would know instantaneously how to differentiate.
When one does not receive socialization they are unable to I would go as far as to say they are unable to cope. They are unable to learn from those around them, communicate with others and the lack culture and understanding. Lucy’s life was unique to all primates. She didn’t grow up in her natural habitat and as a result she develop many human qualities and actions. One of them that surprise me was lying. You would think and animal would not know how to do such things but Lucy adapted. In my opinion adaptation is what human life is all about and that is what Lucy did, she adapted.
Lucy was a female chimpanzee who was born around the late 1900s. Her parents were part of an entertainment circus that traveled to different places. She was taken away from her mother when she was just two days old. The story of Lucy begins with the desire of Dr; Maurice K. Temerly to make an experiment about how human could Lucy become? but he was unaware of the complexity that came along with the experiment. Lucy was raised by Dr;Timerly and his wife. At her early ages she started to present certain human behaviors as well as animal. For instance, she held her own bottle, ate at the table, and climbed trees. When Lucy was around five years old she learned signed language, 250 words to be exact. It was interesting to hear how she spontaneously created her own words to describe other things. Like when she tasted the fruit and because she did not like it said "cry heart candy" which does make sense, because we cry for something bad. As time went on, Lucy started behaving like a human and even showing emotions such as comfort, sympathy, awareness of others feelings, and sadness. I was amazed to hear that she was able to blame others for her faults, and feel attracted by a human male.
ReplyDeleteLucy's story relate to Chapter six because she is a vivid example of how socialization affect us. As we have learned in the chapter and the other readings, we behave depending on the environment we grow up and the customs we are taught. Examples of the socialization agents that influenced lucy's life are; family, and media. Lucy was taught to leave like a human, and to like what we like. Also, the chapter tells us that our features inherited from nature play an important part. We could hear how Lucy had to be put in another environment due to the strength that she had. Despite of her human environment Lucy still presented animal qualities. Lucy lived a life different to a primate. She developed human emotions, and behavior that a primate can not develop in the jungle.
Lucy's life was very similar to human one. Lets think about a baby. We actually teach them the same things Lucy learned; to eat, to draw, to play, to talk, etc. Although Lucy showed certain emotions in a weird way, we have to admit that there are individuals who do that to. Her life was difference in the sense that we do not climb trees the way chimpanzees do it, or have to live in a cage as she had due to her strength. Lucy's story emphasizes what chapter six says about how Chimpanzee are capable of culture. Chimpanzees are able to do this because they have more posibilities to present certain human features. Nontheless, we can still see the difference, since at the end Lucy had to be released.
Nature was felt. As Lucy grew up, she became too strong, big and sexually mature. Thus, it was getting out of Dr; Temerly's hands. As a result, the experiment had to stop. Although, the Timerlys searched for many places were to accommodate Lucy, none seemed appropriate. Consequently, accompanied by one of Lucy's friend Janis Carter, they took Lucy to Gambia west Africa where they were supposed to leave Lucy. The transition was so hard to handle for Lucy that Carter had to state with her for years. It is amazing all that this woman did in order to help Lucy to get along and accustomed to a Monkey's life. After times of sadness, and failing attempts , Lucy finally got adapted. The second year Carter visited Lucy, she was death. Lucy's affection to human could had been caused her a really sad death by hunters. Lucy was not taught to live like a chimpanzee, but a human. As we have learned on Chapter six, it is really difficult for us to survive if we get to live in an environment we are not accustomed to. Instead of good, to raised Lucy as a human harmed her. Perhaps she had not approached the hunters or live the sad transition from human custom to chimpanzee.
Lucy's life, Lucy was born to two circus Chimpanzees in 1964. Lucy’s mother was put to sleep, and Lucy was taken away, to be raised by two human parent Maurice and Jane Termerin as an experiment. The experiment was to see how human Lucy would become, if she was brought up by human parents and treated as a human. Lucy’s story relates to chapter six, because by composing this experiment, they were resocializing Lucy’s social norm as a primate. These people that took part in the experiment were agents of socialization in Lucy’s like and caused the Chimpanzee to behave human, by using words to communicate through sign language. This also relates to the term nature versus nurture debate, because Lucy is a primate, they get very big, strong, and destructive. Lucy began to destroy the house, nature. While she was brought up as a human and was potty trained, could communicate, and dress herself, nurture. Lucy’s life was unique to other primates, because she was not raised in the wild by her natural parents, or as chimpanzee; but two days after birth she was raised as a human, by humans, in a human environment (home). Lucy had also never been around other primate after being birth and when she was put with her first primate at an adolescent age she was scared and tried to withdraw, she only Knew humans, was attracted to humans as opposed to other primates, attached to, trusted and comfortable with humans, which in the end leads to her death.
ReplyDeleteLucy’s life was very similar to human beings because she could communicate with words although she was no verbal she could sign, she also lied, which it is believed that only humans can do. She could dress herself, use a stove and make tea, pour herself a drink and share food, she was potty trained, and she was attracted to humans. Her life was different because she had to be caged when she matured and was going from adolescent to adulthood because of her strength and size she became difficult to manage and was sent to live on a preserve with other primates. Lucy life compares to chapter six because the agents of socialization in her life encourage resocialization. Lucy's life is different because she is never sorrounded by a peer group as a young chimpanzee into adolecsence, and while we are introduced to the socializtion of human beings all our life Lucy was introduced to the socialization of human beings and then later on her life, had to learn how to become a chimpanzee resocialization is reversed or done is a out of sequence order, which we are not introduced to in chapter six.
DeleteLucy is sent to the preservation with the other primates and Janis cares for her and the other primates trying to socialize them. After Lucy is disowned by her "parents," when she becomes to much for them to handle. The preservation is not going successfully so the primates are moved to an island where they are kept until finally slowly but surely they aadapt to their natural instincts of how primates should behave. Of course Lucy is the last one to adapt and she still trust and has an attachemnts to humans which seem to be what caused her death she was found by Janis in the skeletal form, she was a skeleton with her hands and feet severed from the rest of her body this is usually done by poachers. It is assumed that because of her connection to humans Lucy saw the poachers and willingly apporached them and they took adavantage of the situation. Along with the poachers that skinned Lucy, I think the Termerlin's are just as responsible for resocializing Lucy taking her from her natural habitat and never having her had experience her nature versus themm nurturing her to be as human as possible. The consequence for the experiment is an unnatural trust and comfortable feeling towards humans which lead Lucy to death. Due to the fact that Lucy's natural instincts and socialzation were never socialized to begin with and she was raised in a resocialized environment, when Lucy finally was socialized and put in a biologically determined situation she had not fully adapted and the end result was fatal and resulted in her death.
DeleteI personally found this extremely interesting that these people not only took the chimpanzee from her mother at two days old but they killed her mother. Took her raised the chimpanzee to be a human they raised a primate an animal that should be out in the wild with the other chimpanzees and socialized as a primate and learning how to survive from baisc instinct or biological determination, naturally; being nurtured by other chimpanzees taught how to survive. Lucy was a experiment but they took care of her like she was their daughter even referred to her as such but once she was going from adolescents into adulthhood they decided they have had enough and disposed of her leeaving a house chimp to learn how to be a wild chimp something she has never been introduced to althpugh through basic instinct she had displayed certain characteristics of a wild chimp she did not know how to survive as they did. I felt bad for the chimpanzee she was used and lead into a fatal end all to conduct and experiment. I wonder how differently this experiment would've gone if they did everything exactly the same but instead of two days old maybe, rearing the child from two months or two years old? Being that the chimp has been socialized the resocialization process for the experiment would it have gone as positively? When they socialized her to be back in the wild would she still meet a fatal end?
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